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Reply-to: (My answers are preceeded by a *)
(My answers in Bold) Lionel Messi
is not the best player in the world, not even close, and here is why :-
The best player in the world (referred to hereafter with the letters
BPW) can play on every position on a football pitch, from central
defender to striker. (Who can do that? None of the players you
mention on your list are capable. Most players specialize in a position.
I never saw Pele or Maradona defending.)
* But if you put Ibrahimovic, Kaka or Rooney in the back, they can still hold their ground, tackle, keep up with strong strikers and take the ball from them. They all run back to defend with the others, and they are damn good at it.
Messi has proven many
times that he is of no use on any other position than the attacking
midflield or the second striker. - The BPW is resistant (meaning of resistant?) enough and jumps high enough (I
guess, once again, you must not have thought much of Maradona. Having a
good aerial game is not a requirement if you're THAT good with the ball
on the ground) to be able to face anyone in a confrontation in
the air or on the ground. Messi is too short (which is not his fault of
course, but affects him nevertheless) (again, Maradona, and SO
many other outstanding players were short. In fact, Barcelona are a
relatively short team on average. They don't need to jump, they play the
ball on the ground. They let the animals do the jumping) and too light to be considered BPW (so there's a minimum weight requirement...).
* Weight and height are two physical characteristics that the best player in the world (or a complete player) needs to master all the aspects of the game. Outstanding ball control is quite an advantage, but does not make up for a lousy 1 on 1 header or being unable to face the average sized player having the ball in a defensive attempt. Headers are a crucial part of the game, and the winning of aerial duels can determine the outcome of a game, especially once a corner or a free kick is given.
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The BPW has perfect technique of course, so does Messi, but he is
definitely not the only one. Arjen Robben, Frank Rib�ry, Kun Aguero,
Carlos T�vez, Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas, Wayne Rooney, Cristiano
Ronaldo to name only those few are in the same case (Messi's skill
on the ball surpasses all those players you mentioned by such a large
margin, that it makes up for anything he lacks).
* I don't agree. The fact that Messi leads the ball close to his feet makes it look cleaner than the way Rooney or Ronaldo does it. Messi has better dribbling skills, fine, but Rooney, Ronaldo or Ibra have outstanding skills themselves, PLUS strong and precise shooting from far out, physical strength, mesmerizing speed, a strategic talent for passes, outstanding header qualities and the ability to switch from defense to attack within half a second. So no, being a little more dextrous on the ball does absolutely NOT make up for it.
- The BPW can
adapt to any team, any country, and play in any kind of system. If a
system fails, the BPW can still be a match winner. Messi has proven many
times that he is simply of no use in the Argentinian national team, he
hasnt scored a single goal at the world cup, has lost 78% of his
tactical duels against the german defenders Arne Friedrich and Per
Mertesacker (both significantly slower than Messi) in the quarter
finals, and has never turned a game, or even pushed his teammates
forward in the slightest. (Of all those players you've mentioned the
only ones who have outperformed Messi in national team performances are
Schweinsteiger and Ozil. It's no coincidence they both play for Germany,
a very well-organized and balanced team (unlike Argentina).
* We can agree on the fact that Argentina was quite unorganized during the world cup (and that Maradona was a joke as a manager for that matter), but Schweini and �zil are definitely NOT the only ones that outperformed Messi. What about Klose ? Him and Messi have the same purpose in a team : efficient scoring. Klose was best scorer, Messi didn't even put ONE in. What about Forl�n ? What about Sneijder ? What about Hamsik ? What about Kevin Prince Boateng ? All surpassed themselves while Messi failed time and again.
Football is
a team sport. I haven't seen Rooney or Cristiano Ronaldo do much of
anything for THEIR national teams)
* I can agree to the fact that Ronaldo has not shown anything amazing during the world cup, but remember the European Cup 2004, Portugal reached the final, and Ronaldo played a big part in that. And Rooney is an OUTSTANDING player for the English national team, but it is definitely not his fault that the managers never were able to build an efficient tactical plan (last manager : Capello, not an Englishman, but an Italian). Rooney has joined the world cup with a foot freshly broken for the fourth time in a row, his performance could not have been the same. Let's see Messi break his foot just once and we'll talk. Rooney has always played fantastically in the national team, which is simply unlucky with its managers and goalkeepers.
- The BPW has no fear to change
countries, to see how football is played elsewhere, and appreciates
generous offers to complete his own personal manner of playing with
teachings from all over the world. (Who said he was afraid)
* My point is that Messi could gain so much experience, strength and abilities by joining a club in a harder, more athletic championship where he would have to adapt to a team, and not the other way around. He chooses Barcelona because they did a lot for him no doubt, but also because outside of the Catalan club, he would have a much harder time playing at all, and would probably never manage to play on the same level.
Messi was offered various extravagant contracts to leave Barcelona,
among which Manchster City who was prepared to pay 120 Million Euros
(!!!) for him. For that kind of cash, you can have Mesut �zil and
Bastian Schweinsteiger together. He refused, claiming he loved Barcelona
too much while the truth is that he would not last two weeks in
England, because he simply doesnt have the physical capacities. (To
play in England? Is that the English League that has almost no clubs
left in European competition? Is that the English League who's reigning
champion was outclassed and outrun by the 7th place team of the Spanish
La Liga? Believe me, Messi is playing in the most competitive league in
the world. He's had all the exposure he needs)
* The most competitive league ? Bullshit. The only competition in the Primera Division is Real-Barca, nothing more. Besides, Barcelona has a winning streak, of course, because they are benefiting from a great generation, no one is arguing that. But remember how strong and feared ManU were when they had the combining attacking capabilities of Cristiano Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez. Give Valencia, Ashley Young, Welbeck and Chicharito a few years (since THEY have to adapt to a system, the system isn't just built around them) and we'll talk again. Besides, look at a team like ManCity. Give them three years to warm up to each other and get it rolling, now that they got rid of the Italian manager, and then I'm sure it will be a whole other story to beat the City, even for Barcelona. The English league is the hardest, most competitive league, on and off the pitch, and nobody aware of how the world of football works can argue with that.
- The BPW has a strong and accurate shot with both feet. Messi never had a strong shot, and probably never will (Why
do you need to have a strong shot? For that matter you should get
horses out on the pitch to kick the ball (which is pretty much what
English football is all about anyway). The point is to get the ball in
the back of the net, and Messi can certainly do that)
* The point is not to argue that Messi can put the ball in the net, the point is to underline the fact that others could do it in his position just as efficiently PLUS kick the ball in from 20 yards further, giving them that much more opportunities to score, and making them, incidentally, BETTER than Messi in that regard. Besides, if "modern football" is to become a constant passing around without ever attempting a strong shot from far out (which, by the way, are often agreed to be the most enjoyable goals ever scored : just watch Robben two years ago against ManU after the cross by Rib�ry, or the goal by Zidane against Leverkusen in the CL final, or any goal by Paul Scholes or Seedorf for that matter), then it really has no point at all anymore. Football is, above all, a spectacle supposed to be entertaining and to trigger emotions, not to watch a bunch of dwarfs push around a ball for 15 minutes just to lose it in the end. (Gerrard,
Schweinsteiger, Drogba, Rooney, Podolski are just as accurate, and
shoot significantely harder than Messi)All in all, I believe that there
is a list of 10 players that can be set that are all more likely to
present the majority of the qualities named before, and Messi is not
among them. (If you English are ever going to progress in this
game, you'll have to pull your head out of the sand and start realizing
that you're light-years behind in footballing terms. You haven't learned
how to develop technical abilities in players, and you're outdated
tactically. All the physicality in the world won't make up for it. It's
time to start looking around and learning)
- First of all, look around and learn yourself, since English, Scottish and Irish players have been paving the way for Messis and Xavis (George Best, Sir Mathews, Denis Law, Bobby Charlton,...) long before their time. Second, English teams are still populating the top ten of the strongest and most constant, and above all, most popular teams in the world, with slight fluctuations of course, but with a consistency other leagues can only dream of. Last but not least, Guardiola, Mourinho and so many more can only kiss the Premier League's feet for making their outstanding players what they are (Henry, Piqu�, Ronaldo, Cesc Fabregas and so many more). English football is adapting to modern football standards but staying loyal to its tradition and its way to play, which is enriching for world football, and which is already, and will become very efficient with time. Barcelona did not build itself in a day either, and great periods of glory end as fast as they begin. But that is the appeal of football altogether.
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